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		<title>By: GRACE</title>
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		<dc:creator>GRACE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 17:16:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The unconscious mind speaks to us through many languages, and in endless forms. Ultimately, all those forms are not true, but they stay true for some people at certain phase. People overcome the false to see the Real. Because the false is so deelply buried, and because people cannot access the deeper levels of their own minds, they come to hypnotists for help.  

Maybe It is unwise for a hypnotist to tell any client that the client is possessed by a demon; On the other hand, to tell another client that he is possessed, and implant in their subconscious a more powerful symbol than the conceived demon, is the only way to help that client get free from the &quot;demon&quot;, as this clent did believe at the deepest level of his psyche that he was demon possessed. There is simply no logic at that level of the mind. 

Ultimately, the demons are not real, but equally unreal are the motivations driving the behaviors. Ultimately there is only energy, but this energy is perceived as different forms according to the levels of people&#039;s consciousness. 

I know people are healed by all kinds of suggestions, the important thing is to find one that can really take away the client&#039;s problem. 

Thank you all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The unconscious mind speaks to us through many languages, and in endless forms. Ultimately, all those forms are not true, but they stay true for some people at certain phase. People overcome the false to see the Real. Because the false is so deelply buried, and because people cannot access the deeper levels of their own minds, they come to hypnotists for help.  </p>
<p>Maybe It is unwise for a hypnotist to tell any client that the client is possessed by a demon; On the other hand, to tell another client that he is possessed, and implant in their subconscious a more powerful symbol than the conceived demon, is the only way to help that client get free from the &#8220;demon&#8221;, as this clent did believe at the deepest level of his psyche that he was demon possessed. There is simply no logic at that level of the mind. </p>
<p>Ultimately, the demons are not real, but equally unreal are the motivations driving the behaviors. Ultimately there is only energy, but this energy is perceived as different forms according to the levels of people&#8217;s consciousness. </p>
<p>I know people are healed by all kinds of suggestions, the important thing is to find one that can really take away the client&#8217;s problem. </p>
<p>Thank you all.</p>
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		<title>By: Doctor Regal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doctor Regal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 14:00:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I appreciate everyones sincerity with regards to their conceptualization of what is healthy and going on for their clients.

It is indeed an honor for me to work with individuals who harbor &quot;dark forces&quot;. This specialization is the most fascinating part of my work.

Upon completing unique and particular cases that I am addressing, it is my intention to publish my findings.

Look forward to that day!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I appreciate everyones sincerity with regards to their conceptualization of what is healthy and going on for their clients.</p>
<p>It is indeed an honor for me to work with individuals who harbor &#8220;dark forces&#8221;. This specialization is the most fascinating part of my work.</p>
<p>Upon completing unique and particular cases that I am addressing, it is my intention to publish my findings.</p>
<p>Look forward to that day!</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Clere</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy Clere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:36:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I invite my demons in for tea, from time to time...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I invite my demons in for tea, from time to time&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Keith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 15:08:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doctor Regal,
I am more concerned with what is healthy for clients than I am in what is &quot;true.&quot; The theories we have about what causes problems in people&#039;s lives can be helpful to them--or harmful. It&#039;s a good idea (I believe) to examine our pet theories and whether or not they are useful in getting clients where they want to go.

Of course, when we have a more accurate idea of what&#039;s going on, we can make changes with a minimum of muss and fuss. From what I&#039;ve seen though, entity possession is not generally much in the way of an accurate idea of what&#039;s going on. 

Also, there&#039;s the fact that opposite motivations can easily occur in folks--and it&#039;s easy for one part of a person to label another evil or an entity. That makes working in the entity framework dangerous (to the client) and mostly silly (IMO).

Certainly, there are things that exist in this world that are beyond my imagination. My guess about entities though? No. To sum up my attitude about it?  &quot;I could be wrong--but I&#039;m not,&quot; to quote The Eagles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doctor Regal,<br />
I am more concerned with what is healthy for clients than I am in what is &#8220;true.&#8221; The theories we have about what causes problems in people&#8217;s lives can be helpful to them&#8211;or harmful. It&#8217;s a good idea (I believe) to examine our pet theories and whether or not they are useful in getting clients where they want to go.</p>
<p>Of course, when we have a more accurate idea of what&#8217;s going on, we can make changes with a minimum of muss and fuss. From what I&#8217;ve seen though, entity possession is not generally much in the way of an accurate idea of what&#8217;s going on. </p>
<p>Also, there&#8217;s the fact that opposite motivations can easily occur in folks&#8211;and it&#8217;s easy for one part of a person to label another evil or an entity. That makes working in the entity framework dangerous (to the client) and mostly silly (IMO).</p>
<p>Certainly, there are things that exist in this world that are beyond my imagination. My guess about entities though? No. To sum up my attitude about it?  &#8220;I could be wrong&#8211;but I&#8217;m not,&#8221; to quote The Eagles.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob S</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 19:51:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not trying to prick anyone&#039;s bubble, just observing that in my experience, most of what passes for metaphysical phenomena can just as easily, and with MUCH better outcomes be responded to as symptoms -- natural, useful phenomena within a pretty well understood and reliable (and self-healing) system. 

And just to be fair, I am equally suspicious of anything that sounds like it might match up to a diagnostic code that some &quot;provider&quot; put on a claim form somewhere. I believe it&#039;s all about paying attention to what is going on in the room, right now. Not what we have studied at great expense and time commitment. The literature is filled with examples of sincere practicioners finding, falsely, phenomena they studied for their theses. This isn&#039;t just bad hypnosis (of which there is plenty), it&#039;s just plain bad practice. It further victimizes clients/patients, rather than helping develop generative choices.

And not to gore your ox, but I am having trouble getting my head around these &quot;entities&quot; putting up with basic standards of replicability, double-bind studies or peer-review in the context of legitimate research. But I really like the phrase &quot;lucid scripting.&quot; Good album title.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not trying to prick anyone&#8217;s bubble, just observing that in my experience, most of what passes for metaphysical phenomena can just as easily, and with MUCH better outcomes be responded to as symptoms &#8212; natural, useful phenomena within a pretty well understood and reliable (and self-healing) system. </p>
<p>And just to be fair, I am equally suspicious of anything that sounds like it might match up to a diagnostic code that some &#8220;provider&#8221; put on a claim form somewhere. I believe it&#8217;s all about paying attention to what is going on in the room, right now. Not what we have studied at great expense and time commitment. The literature is filled with examples of sincere practicioners finding, falsely, phenomena they studied for their theses. This isn&#8217;t just bad hypnosis (of which there is plenty), it&#8217;s just plain bad practice. It further victimizes clients/patients, rather than helping develop generative choices.</p>
<p>And not to gore your ox, but I am having trouble getting my head around these &#8220;entities&#8221; putting up with basic standards of replicability, double-bind studies or peer-review in the context of legitimate research. But I really like the phrase &#8220;lucid scripting.&#8221; Good album title.</p>
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		<title>By: Doctor Regal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doctor Regal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 16:38:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is an interesting topic that is veiled by a shroud of mysticism which is unbelievable by many and perhaps substantially validated only to a select few. Because all scientific knowledge is obtained by observation, I suggest conducting some experiments and verifying  whether or not  this can be proven true or not. 

In my quest for understanding this deviation from the norm I have mixed reviews. The possibility for its veracity still exists with respect to my limited sampling, however key to making that determination is implementation of  lucid scripting, consistency in communication and accuracy of reporting in addition to proper training and understanding of the elements comprising the drawing of any conclusions.

Since my training includes Spiritual Hypnotism and Metaphysical Hypnotherapy in addition to Traditional Hypnotism, I suggest further exploration into this topic before shunning it completely. At first I was somewhat skeptical myself, however some of my findings are rather extraordinary. Consider then remaining open-minded to the possibilities, for the unknown realm is truly beyond our immediate comprehension.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an interesting topic that is veiled by a shroud of mysticism which is unbelievable by many and perhaps substantially validated only to a select few. Because all scientific knowledge is obtained by observation, I suggest conducting some experiments and verifying  whether or not  this can be proven true or not. </p>
<p>In my quest for understanding this deviation from the norm I have mixed reviews. The possibility for its veracity still exists with respect to my limited sampling, however key to making that determination is implementation of  lucid scripting, consistency in communication and accuracy of reporting in addition to proper training and understanding of the elements comprising the drawing of any conclusions.</p>
<p>Since my training includes Spiritual Hypnotism and Metaphysical Hypnotherapy in addition to Traditional Hypnotism, I suggest further exploration into this topic before shunning it completely. At first I was somewhat skeptical myself, however some of my findings are rather extraordinary. Consider then remaining open-minded to the possibilities, for the unknown realm is truly beyond our immediate comprehension.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob S</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 01:16:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>a metaphoric afterthought: I am sure coaching t-ball to a bunch of five or six-year-olds can seem like pure torture after a particularly grueling day on the job. But I can&#039;t, at the moment, imagine how telling the kids about torture, Hell, or my struggles to get a corner office is going to help their game. It seems to me that by focussing attention, lovingly and fiercely, on skillfully playing the game, as a team, while being good humans, we may add value. Otherwise, maybe coaching isn&#039;t our best choice for being helpful...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a metaphoric afterthought: I am sure coaching t-ball to a bunch of five or six-year-olds can seem like pure torture after a particularly grueling day on the job. But I can&#8217;t, at the moment, imagine how telling the kids about torture, Hell, or my struggles to get a corner office is going to help their game. It seems to me that by focussing attention, lovingly and fiercely, on skillfully playing the game, as a team, while being good humans, we may add value. Otherwise, maybe coaching isn&#8217;t our best choice for being helpful&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Keith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 00:35:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wonderfully said Bob.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wonderfully said Bob.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob S</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 00:00:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Much of this string seems to me to relate to an essential struggle we all face, that is how we come to &quot;know&quot; and how we respond to otherness or difference from within our particular sense of how things &quot;are.&quot; 

For those who have been possessed by demons, and I know two who &quot;know&quot; this to have happened to them, it&#039;s a pretty powerful frame for pretty much everything they experience afterwards. Likewise, those who have survived cancer; divorce; family, pastoral or playground abuse; alien abduction; or my father&#039;s home movies. 

We all carry some baggage; we strive to unpack as much as possible in our roles helping to resolve  &quot;symptoms.&quot; But there are plenty of times we fall short. Witness some of the horrible websites some of our bretheren and sisteren in the hypnosis space have up. I call this nonsense &#039;unicorn and rainbows&quot; and not in a good way. (My unicorn hates rainbows, BTW.)

As was well-discussed in an earlier blog post, there seems to be a serious lack of structural or systemic orientation among some of our peers. Lots of recipe card techniquess and scripted &quot;inductions.&quot; If we can&#039;t keep one foot firmly planted in a workable (say, 90% reliably helpful) model for mind and behavior, we run risk of missing the goods when they make an apprearance, or much worse, laying on more confusion. If we keep finding the same problem or framework everywhere we look, maybe the problem is in the lenses we are using and no further. Just because it &#039;feels&#039; like demonic possession doesn&#039;t make that a helpful observation, unless it gives the client a framework for changing it. 

If someone threw &quot;demonic possession&quot; at me, I expect I would respond pretty much like I would to &quot;terminal cancer.&quot; And vice versa.    

One of my favorite terms from a previous life is &quot;iatragenic&quot; - caused by a doctor. Perhaps we need to coin one for our situation, perhaps &quot;hypnogenic&quot; fits the bill. Sadly, there are plenty of examples we might cite to flesh out a short paper. Okay, back to my horoscope...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Much of this string seems to me to relate to an essential struggle we all face, that is how we come to &#8220;know&#8221; and how we respond to otherness or difference from within our particular sense of how things &#8220;are.&#8221; </p>
<p>For those who have been possessed by demons, and I know two who &#8220;know&#8221; this to have happened to them, it&#8217;s a pretty powerful frame for pretty much everything they experience afterwards. Likewise, those who have survived cancer; divorce; family, pastoral or playground abuse; alien abduction; or my father&#8217;s home movies. </p>
<p>We all carry some baggage; we strive to unpack as much as possible in our roles helping to resolve  &#8220;symptoms.&#8221; But there are plenty of times we fall short. Witness some of the horrible websites some of our bretheren and sisteren in the hypnosis space have up. I call this nonsense &#8216;unicorn and rainbows&#8221; and not in a good way. (My unicorn hates rainbows, BTW.)</p>
<p>As was well-discussed in an earlier blog post, there seems to be a serious lack of structural or systemic orientation among some of our peers. Lots of recipe card techniquess and scripted &#8220;inductions.&#8221; If we can&#8217;t keep one foot firmly planted in a workable (say, 90% reliably helpful) model for mind and behavior, we run risk of missing the goods when they make an apprearance, or much worse, laying on more confusion. If we keep finding the same problem or framework everywhere we look, maybe the problem is in the lenses we are using and no further. Just because it &#8216;feels&#8217; like demonic possession doesn&#8217;t make that a helpful observation, unless it gives the client a framework for changing it. </p>
<p>If someone threw &#8220;demonic possession&#8221; at me, I expect I would respond pretty much like I would to &#8220;terminal cancer.&#8221; And vice versa.    </p>
<p>One of my favorite terms from a previous life is &#8220;iatragenic&#8221; &#8211; caused by a doctor. Perhaps we need to coin one for our situation, perhaps &#8220;hypnogenic&#8221; fits the bill. Sadly, there are plenty of examples we might cite to flesh out a short paper. Okay, back to my horoscope&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Keith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 15:28:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello,
I think it&#039;s useful to find the motivations, the positive intents behind &#039;self-destructive&#039; behavior. The behavior can then be viewed as a misguided effort to do something good. We can help clients find better ways to achieve that good.

I personally admire many people who strive to live in harmony with their religious upbringing. Where it creates conflict for them, we can help them sort it out. For instance, it&#039;s possible to honor one&#039;s parents without accepting all of their behaviors. Hate (as another example) might be a protective mechanism against propagating the same type of behavior.

We&#039;re all for the protection &lt;em&gt;and&lt;/em&gt; perhaps we can help them find another, less personally destructive way to protect themselves.

Keith
PS: Though there have been those with whom I&#039;ve failed, I don&#039;t think I would classify any of them as having had &quot;too much damage.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello,<br />
I think it&#8217;s useful to find the motivations, the positive intents behind &#8216;self-destructive&#8217; behavior. The behavior can then be viewed as a misguided effort to do something good. We can help clients find better ways to achieve that good.</p>
<p>I personally admire many people who strive to live in harmony with their religious upbringing. Where it creates conflict for them, we can help them sort it out. For instance, it&#8217;s possible to honor one&#8217;s parents without accepting all of their behaviors. Hate (as another example) might be a protective mechanism against propagating the same type of behavior.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re all for the protection <em>and</em> perhaps we can help them find another, less personally destructive way to protect themselves.</p>
<p>Keith<br />
PS: Though there have been those with whom I&#8217;ve failed, I don&#8217;t think I would classify any of them as having had &#8220;too much damage.&#8221;</p>
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